AMD Confirms ‘No Overclocking’ For Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU, Only Memory & FCLK Overclock Enabled

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AMD Confirms 'No Overclocking' For Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU, Only Memory & FCLK Overclock Enabled

AMD’s Ryzen 7 5800X3D will be the first consumer CPU to feature 3D V-Cache but the addition of the new technology means that it will have to sacrifice some key features such as overclocking support.

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU Doesn’t Support Overclocking Due To Voltage Scaling

In an interview with Hothardware, AMD’s Director of Technical Marketing, Robert Hallock, once again revealed some interesting details regarding the upcoming Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU. The rep, answering a question to AMD hardware enthusiast, Michal Simonek, on whether the chip would support overclocking or not, Robert replied that it wouldn’t and for good reason too.

The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU is going to be the company’s first 3D V-Cache offering and as such, it needs to be optimized in terms of voltages before it ships out in the consumer segment. Robert states that while chips can reach up to 1.5-1.6V with overclock, the 3D V-Cache stack that sits on top of the Zen 3 cores can only do 1.35V and it is already running at its limit out of the box. If users try to overvolt the chip beyond that voltage curve, they can break the chip and hence why overclocking is not supported for the CPU.

But even though the CPU doesn’t feature overclocking support, memory and Infinity Cache (FCLK) overclocking will remain enabled, and as Robert states, it provides a more significant performance boost anyways versus standard core overclocking.

Frequency is important, frequency is important but every processor, every game is always a series of tradeoffs, bottleneck mitigations and in our architecture, when you are in the range of four and a half to five GIgahertz, four or five is enough when you put a ton of memory on top you know you are not limited by frequency anymore, you are not giving anything up to target that frequency, its the performance limiters or the performance accelerators move up, move elsewhere in the architecture so we can dial back on the frequency a bit ease up on the thermals, make it easier to cool and drop in a big extra blob of cache on top which is more transistor density, more thermal density so that’s a trade-off that was very easy.

Robert Hallock (AMD Head of Technical Marketing) via PCWorld

Robert does hint that they were quick in rolling out the Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU in the gaming market so it is likely that given enough time to mature, AMD could have future generations of 3D V-Cache chips that support overclocking just like any other CPU. The voltage scaling also affects the clocks which have been reduced by up to 400 MHz down to 3.4 GHz and 4.5 GHz compared to 3.8 GHz and 4.7 GHz on the non-3D part.

There were also recent reports that AMD is advising motherboard makers to remove overclocking features and support for the 5800X3D CPU from their products but Robert confirms that the chip is ‘Hard Locked’ for overclocking & there is no way board makers can bypass the restriction and enable overclock. But this also shouldn’t make you think that AMD is going the non-overclocking route for its future Ryzen Desktop CPUs. Robert says that this is just a one-off thing and they are committed to offering more overclocking enabled CPUs in the future.

AMD Ryzen 5000 Serie & Ryzen 4000 CPU Lineup (2022)

CPU Name Architecture Cores/Threads Base Clock Boost Clock Cache (L2+L3) PCIe Lanes (Gen 4 CPU+PCH) TDP Price (MSRP)
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 7nm Zen 3 ‘Vermeer’ 16/32 3.4 GHz 4.9 GHz 72 MB 24 + 16 105W $799 US
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 7nm Zen 3 ‘Vermeer’ 12/24 3.7 GHz 4.8 GHz 70 MB 24 + 16 105W $549 US
AMD Ryzen 9 5900 7nm Zen 3 ‘Vermeer’ 12/24 3.0 GHz 4.7 GHz 64 MB 24 + 16 65W $499 US?
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 7nm Zen 3D ‘Warhol’ 8/16 3.4 GHz 4.5 GHz 64 MB + 32 MB 24 + 16 105W $449 US
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 7nm Zen 3 ‘Vermeer’ 8/16 3.8 GHz 4.7 GHz 36 MB 24 + 16 105W $449 US
AMD Ryzen 7 5800 7nm Zen 3 ‘Vermeer’ 8/16 3.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 32 MB 24 + 16 65W $399 US?
AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 7nm Zen 3 ‘Vermeer’ 8/16 3.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 36 MB 24 + 16 65W $299 US
AMD Ryzen 7 5700 7nm Zen 3 ‘Cezanne’ 8/16 TBD TBD 20 MB 20 (Gen 3) + 16 65W TBD
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 7nm Zen 3 ‘Vermeer’ 6/12 3.7 GHz 4.6 GHz 35 MB 24 + 16 65W $299 US
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 7nm Zen 3 ‘Vermeer’ 6/12 3.5 GHz 4.4 GHz 35 MB 24 + 16 65W $199 US
AMD Ryzen 5 5500 7nm Zen 3 ‘Cezanne’ 6/12 3.6 GHz 4.2 GHz 19 MB 20 (Gen 3) + 16 65W $159 US
AMD Ryzen 5 5100 7nm Zen 3 ‘Cezanne’ 4/8 TBD TBD TBD 20 (Gen 3) + 16 65W TBD
AMD Ryzen 7 4700 7nm Zen 2 ‘Renoir-X’ 8/16 3.6 GHz 4.4 GHz 20 MB 20 (Gen 3) + 16 65W TBD
AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 7nm Zen 2 ‘Renoir’ 6/12 TBD TBD 11 MB 20 (Gen 3) + 16 65W $154 US
AMD Ryzen 5 4500 7nm Zen 2 ‘Renoir-X’ 6/12 3.6 GHz 4.1 GHz 11 MB 20 (Gen 3) + 16 65W $129 US
AMD Ryzen 3 4100 7nm Zen 2 ‘Renoir-X’ 4/8 3.8 GHz 4.0 GHz 6 MB 20 (Gen 3) + 16 65W $ 99 US

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